Chapter 7 of 15 · Organic Content and Creators
1 The bottom line
Find creators with small followings but strong, consistent reach, vet them by their comments, then recruit them with high-volume outreach that moves quickly to a call. Most outreach fails, so volume and persistence decide who wins.
2 Key takeaways
- Hunt for small creators whose videos already get big reach. The algorithm is pushing them, and you arrive before prices rise.
- Filtering for under 5,000 followers with heavy reach found a creator with tens of millions of views who became a Praktika employee

Adam Turaev, Praktika34:19. - Many of Pok Pok's creators have around 2,000 followers

Melissa Cash, Pok Pok33:10.
- Filtering for under 5,000 followers with heavy reach found a creator with tens of millions of views who became a Praktika employee
- Vet creators by their comment sections, not views or followers. Views can be bought or empty, but real conversation shows a trusting audience.
- A signed creator got 120,000 views in an hour and zero sign-ups, because the views were bought

Cedric Roberge, Pep AI45:00. - A 160,000 view video with 33 comments about the platform counted as good engagement

Kieran, StudyFetch14:09.
- A signed creator got 120,000 views in an hour and zero sign-ups, because the views were bought
- Choose niches by why viewers watch, not by what the creator does. A perfect-looking topic can still fail if viewers want something else.
- Several UFC creators were signed for thousands of dollars each and produced no download spike

Jake Castillo, Cal AI20:53.
- Several UFC creators were signed for thousands of dollars each and produced no download spike
- Treat recruiting as a numbers game and plan for thousands of messages. Reply rates are low and few replies turn into signings.
- Cal AI reached about 220,000 influencers and signed or onboarded roughly 2,000 to 3,000

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI35:39. - Instagram replies ran 3 to 4% and TikTok about 2%

Evan Yadegari, Locked7:27.
- Cal AI reached about 220,000 influencers and signed or onboarded roughly 2,000 to 3,000
- Get creators on a call before you talk money. Calls build the relationship and let you shape the deal.
- Calling rather than only messaging probably 10xes the chance of a good deal

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI37:58.
- Calling rather than only messaging probably 10xes the chance of a good deal
views can lie, followers can lie, but comments cannot.
Jake Castillo, Cal AI25:55
2.1 Pick the niche before the creator
| Looked right, failed | Actually worked | |
|---|---|---|
| Niches | UFC, recipes, mukbangs | Gym, women's fitness, weight loss |
| Why viewers watch | Relax, indulge, switch off | Improve their body and diet |
| Viewer mindset | Couch, pizza and beer | Actively tracking progress |
| Wants calorie info? | No, avoids it | Yes, seeks it |
A niche that looks like a perfect fit can fail if viewers watch for a different reason.
- Ask why people watch and what they want from it before you sign anyone. Source:

Jake Castillo, Cal AI20:53
- UFC viewers watch from the couch with pizza and beer, so they do not want calorie information

Jake Castillo, Cal AI20:53. - Recipe videos and mukbangs did not convert for a calorie app because viewers watch them to avoid thinking about calories

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI20:10. - The core niches that did work were gym, women's fitness and weight loss

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI20:10.
- UFC viewers watch from the couch with pizza and beer, so they do not want calorie information
- Test each niche with one creator before you scale it. Source:

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI17:00
- Run one video, check the result, and only expand in niches big enough to hold more creators.
- One creator paid $20,000 drove $120,000 of signups in a month, and a second creator in the same niche did not do well

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI17:00.
- Match the creator's age to what your buyer can spend. Source:

Dawson Gibbs, Evo Marketing48:06
- Track churn and paying customers for each content angle, not just views and signups

Dawson Gibbs, Evo Marketing46:47. - If churn is high from young audiences, move to creators aged 30 and up.
- A campaign got 40 million views and $1.2 million for SMB Market, but churn was about 45% two to three months later

Dawson Gibbs, Evo Marketing46:47. - Mom and family creators convert at the highest rates for family-related products

Dawson Gibbs, Evo Marketing48:06.
- Track churn and paying customers for each content angle, not just views and signups
- Check which channel your competitors ignore, then sign everyone in it. Source:

Cedric Roberge, Pep AI0:15
- Competing GLP apps only ran ads, so Cedric found nearly every consistent peptide creator and had them post before he ran any ads.
- Revenue went from $30,000 in month one to $50,000 in month two

Cedric Roberge, Pep AI0:15.
2.2 Find creators before everyone else does
The best finds are small, new and undiscovered, and they sit outside the usual influencer lists.
- Filter for low followers and high reach. Source:

Adam Turaev, Praktika34:19
- Use a tool like Modash to cap followers below 5,000, then keep creators whose recent videos get heavy reach

Adam Turaev, Praktika34:19. - Look for 5 to 10K followers, good engagement and a personal email in the bio

Brett Bauman and Zack Hargett, Coconote25:49. - If the bio email is at an agency, you are too late, because agencies take more value than they give

Brett Bauman and Zack Hargett, Coconote25:49. - A creator signed around the 12th to 15th at Cal AI went from 10,000 to 12,000 views to a 7 million view video in month three, then never dropped below 500,000

Jake Castillo, Cal AI28:45.
- Use a tool like Modash to cap followers below 5,000, then keep creators whose recent videos get heavy reach
- Recruit storytellers and marketers, not big résumés. Source:

Canyon (Kenyon Prasad), Sideshift12:00
- Look for creators new to UGC who can tell a story to camera, since storytelling is hard to teach and formats are easy.
- Treat the program like a talent manager scouting people not yet discovered

Brett Bauman and Zack Hargett, Coconote15:14. - Past view counts can come from easy formats like text on screen

Canyon (Kenyon Prasad), Sideshift12:00. - Coconote found a Spanish tutor who became a top creator in 9 months

Brett Bauman and Zack Hargett, Coconote15:14.
- Search in places where creators and students gather. Source:

Dillion Verma, Halo AI11:42
- Post a job in Reddit UGC groups and Facebook UGC groups, then screen for UGC experience, app experience and US residence or a US VPN.
- Post application forms in the Discords of influencers who train creators, and list internships on Handshake

Nicole (madebycol), Glam Up and Sprout47:50. - Search niche terms on TikTok, such as learning German, practicing German, then German major or class

Morrie Schonfeld, Pingo26:05. - Expect 30 to 50 applicants a day from the groups, and Facebook groups were the most recommended source

Dillion Verma, Halo AI11:42. - Opal spotted a user mentioning the app on TikTok and hired her to build a channel that grew to about 700,000 followers

Kenneth Schlenker, Opal48:00. - Nearly half of Visible's team has lived experience of the condition, so they know which creators to approach

Luke Martin-Fuller, Visible47:56.
- Reach big creators through a warm intro or a job offer. Source:

George, Wrestle AI5:27
- Spot a mutual connection in the followed by line, and message that person instead of the creator

George, Wrestle AI5:27. - Pitch the top creator a go-to-market role with salary and equity instead of buying one post

Koby Conrad, Sunflower6:16. - With agents, win the manager first, then ask to add the creator to the group chat

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI32:26. - The warm intro led to a 50/50 partnership with the top wrestling creator

George, Wrestle AI5:27. - Eric, with 50 to 100 million views a month, became VP of Sobriety before Sunflower had revenue and drives 50 to 100k link clicks a month

Koby Conrad, Sunflower6:16.
- Spot a mutual connection in the followed by line, and message that person instead of the creator
2.3 Vet by comments, consistency and audience
Check the audience behind the numbers before you pay anyone.
- Read the comment section for real conversation. Source:

Evan Yadegari, Locked19:08
- Good signs are comments about the content, questions, replies between viewers, and comments with many likes

Evan Yadegari, Locked19:08. - Emoji-only comments will not convert, while comments thanking the creator for useful information will

Jake Castillo, Cal AI25:55. - Evan paid creators with poor comments early because he only looked at followers and views, and calls it his biggest mistake

Evan Yadegari, Locked19:08. - A 5 million follower influencer getting 2 million views per video produced a flopped game, and some creators charge $5,000 a post with no downloads
Rafael Kramer36:33. - Even so, nine of ten creators will not convert

Jake Castillo, Cal AI25:55.
- Good signs are comments about the content, questions, replies between viewers, and comments with many likes
- Check that comments match the views and talk about the product. Source:

Kieran, StudyFetch14:09
- Look for comment sections proportional to views, even at 10,000 views per video, because a commenter is intentionally present.
- On a million-view video, count how many comments are actually about the product

Esan Durrani, StudyFetch20:50. - Some influencers get many views with no following behind them, and those fail when moved to a new account

Kieran, StudyFetch14:09. - Creators whose videos only draw passing reactions are often just viral and will not send people to the App Store

Daniel Heintzman, Cal AI11:30.
- Judge a creator by their worst post, not their best. Source:

Daniel Heintzman, Cal AI12:22
- Look for a steady baseline, because paid ads perform worse than average content.
- Cal AI looks for 100k views per video consistently

Daniel Heintzman, Cal AI12:22. - At a smaller scale, Evan skips anyone under about 5,000 views per video, whatever their follower count

Evan Yadegari, Locked10:04.
- Check where the audience lives and which platform it is on. Source:

Kieran, StudyFetch19:03
- For US-based creators, aim for over 80% US viewers, and for non-US creators prefer TikTok over Reels.
- Cross-check Instagram stars on TikTok and skip those who do not perform there

Kieran, StudyFetch37:30. - Some videos that went viral on Instagram had conversion close to none, while TikTok virals converted well

Kieran, StudyFetch19:03.
2.4 Recruit through outreach at volume
Use one short, fixed message, send it to thousands, and move replies to a call.
- Open with a short message that gets opened. Source:

Evan Yadegari, Locked13:00
- Start with "paid promo?" so it stands out, then say you are the founder partnering with a select group of creators in a niche and ask for a call.
- Pep AI's first line is "paid promo / affiliate deal?" across TikTok, Instagram and other platforms

Cedric Roberge, Pep AI42:07. - Build a credible Instagram profile first, with mutual followers among influencers and ideally a blue check
Rafael Kramer33:12. - That profile work was more effective than cold emailing 50 to 100 a day, and now three evening DMs bring about two replies by morning
Rafael Kramer33:12. - Pingo's DM named the app and its user count, and it worked unchanged as the count grew from tens of thousands to three million

Morrie Schonfeld, Pingo32:30.
- Plan the funnel up front, because only a sliver of outreach signs. Source:

Ryan Thorpe, Flo38:35
- Expect about 10% email replies, a fraction booking calls, and roughly 1% signed

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI35:39. - Expect to message thousands, since persistence is what competitors will not do

Jake Castillo, Cal AI43:50. - Ryan had just over 2,000 creators, about 10% became regular partners and only 1 to 2% were viral sensations

Ryan Thorpe, Flo38:35. - Evan messaged at least 5,000 to 10,000 influencers to reach 14K a month

Evan Yadegari, Locked7:27. - Cal AI did daily outreach for 18 months

Jake Castillo, Cal AI43:50.
- Expect about 10% email replies, a fraction booking calls, and roughly 1% signed
- Get to a call before you talk rates. Source:

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI37:58
- When creators first ask your budget, say what you want and why it suits them, then invite them to a call to finalize.
- Move interested creators to WhatsApp or iMessage and onto a call right away

Cedric Roberge, Pep AI42:07. - Evan almost never negotiates over DMs, since calls build the relationship and let him set the deal structure

Evan Yadegari, Locked13:00. - At Pep AI, marketing managers take most calls and the founder takes big creators

Cedric Roberge, Pep AI42:07.
- Add people and systems as volume grows. Source:

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI44:29
- Make the assistant's job end once the first outreach is sent, and let an AI system handle early replies and negotiation.
- Run monthly contests with cash or voucher prizes for the most creators reached and onboarded

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI42:34. - Make a VA your first hire to run Instagram DMs

George, Wrestle AI5:27. - Cal AI used about 25 assistants each sending about 100 cold emails a day, roughly 2,000 a day, and email beat DMs because platforms cap DMs

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI35:39. - Accounts hit a rate limit near 100 DMs a day, so Locked ran several verified accounts to send over 500 a day at peak

Evan Yadegari, Locked12:46. - Boost App Social loaded 1,000 Gmail accounts sending about 10 emails each a day and got roughly 10 to 20% replies

Alex, Boost App Social13:16.
2.5 Trial, keep and widen the pool
Test creators cheaply, protect the good ones from overload, and recruit more once a format wins.
- Run a short paid trial and promote on three criteria. Source:

Dillion Verma, Halo AI15:00
- Pay $20 per video for five videos in a Discord with a private channel per creator.
- Promote on consistency, proactive communication and visible viral editing skill.
- Run a paid test task and check on-time delivery

Ryan Thorpe, Flo34:50. - Do not set a minimum view threshold, since only 5% to 10% of videos go viral

Dillion Verma, Halo AI15:00. - About 250 regular creators came out of 500 to 700 who cycled through Flo, and some became full-time employees

Ryan Thorpe, Flo34:50.
- Prefer responsive, self-sufficient creators and cap their campaigns. Source:

Canyon (Kenyon Prasad), Sideshift12:51
- Judge onboarding: fast replies, good questions and excitement beat a 10-star résumé who misses meetings.
- Keep creators to five concurrent campaigns, because those who see no success in a week or two ghost you.
- Zero past campaigns is a mild flag unless the creator is new

Canyon (Kenyon Prasad), Sideshift12:51.
- Prove the format first, then widen the pool in stages. Source:

Jay, Nomad Table53:40
- Make the content yourself until formats work repeatedly, because paying for unvetted content is pointless.
- Once a format wins, take a 5 to 10 minute call with new or earlier-passed creators and add them to the group chat with a leaderboard dashboard

Nick Lawton, SideShift21:18. - Jay got the first 50 to 100k downloads from his own content before hiring anyone

Jay, Nomad Table53:40. - StudyFetch grew from one person to five, to 20, to 400 creators over a school year, after one lecture hall video hit over 76 million views

Esan Durrani, StudyFetch19:20. - With 60 to 70 creators, it is hard not to have a viral video about weekly

Jay, Nomad Table30:30.
- Keep supply coming through referrals and training. Source:

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI45:45
- Message signed creators monthly and pay about $100 when a friend signs, which also bypasses agencies.
- Train everyday people with a structured course

Drew Levin, SideShift25:21. - SideShift's Duolingo-style course runs about 6 hours, and trained creators earn about 10 to 15 thousand dollars after a month or two

Drew Levin, SideShift25:21.
2.6 Where they disagree
The right creator size, view floor and outreach channel depend on your budget and product.
- Small creators or established influencers. Some operators want the unknowns, and others pay big names.
- Praktika caps followers under 5,000

Adam Turaev, Praktika34:19, and Flo prefers 2,000 to 15,000 or 20,000 and says it wants content creators, not influencers 
Ryan Thorpe, Flo34:50. - StudyFetch pays influencers with large followings, one with about 750,000, five-figure monthly retainers to start fresh branded accounts

Kieran, StudyFetch1:03. - Even great-engagement influencers can flop on a new account because of shadow bans or the wrong audience, so test several

Kieran, StudyFetch17:46.
- Praktika caps followers under 5,000
- How high to set the view floor. Operators range from none to 100k.
- Cal AI wants about 100k views per video even on the worst post

Daniel Heintzman, Cal AI12:22, Locked skips under about 5,000 
Evan Yadegari, Locked10:04, and Halo AI sets no minimum on trial creators 
Dillion Verma, Halo AI15:00.
- Cal AI wants about 100k views per video even on the worst post
- Whether past experience matters. Some want proof, and others want a blank slate.
- StudyFetch looks for past brand partnerships or UGC work, and likes TikTok Shop creators who know how to sell

Kieran, StudyFetch24:53. - Sideshift favors newer creators who tell good stories, who also come in at low rates

Canyon (Kenyon Prasad), Sideshift12:00. - Rafael says you can coach an influencer on promotions, so past promotions are not required
Rafael Kramer36:33.
- StudyFetch looks for past brand partnerships or UGC work, and likes TikTok Shop creators who know how to sell
- Email or DMs. The best channel depends on how you get around platform limits.
- Cal AI found email worked better because DMs get capped

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI35:39. - Locked ran several verified accounts to keep sending DMs

Evan Yadegari, Locked12:46.
- Cal AI found email worked better because DMs get capped
- Real creators or UGC. Cost and conversion pull in different directions.
- Cal AI suggests running UGC alongside influencers as influencer prices rise, while expecting lower conversion

Alfie Dickens, Cal AI49:55. - Nick has not seen AI UGC convert and says real creators drive conversions

Nick Lawton, SideShift13:44.
- Cal AI suggests running UGC alongside influencers as influencer prices rise, while expecting lower conversion
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Sub Club - How Cal AI turned creators into a growth machine — Jake Castillo, Cal AI ·
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