Chapter 7 of 15 · Organic Content and Creators
1 The bottom line
Get cited by showing up where AI already looks: Reddit threads, top 10 listicles and free tools. This matters because AI answers pull from those sources and send free traffic, while classic SEO alone is slowing.
2 Key takeaways
- Start by finding which sources AI cites for your prompts. There is no real prompt volume data, so you need a proxy and a source list.
- A query with 15,000 Google impressions a month implies about 5,000 AI search impressions at a 30% rate

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs21:55.
- A query with 15,000 Google impressions a month implies about 5,000 AI search impressions at a 30% rate
- Get into the community threads and comments that AI already cites. One cited thread can rank you for many prompts at once.
- One Reddit URL was cited for five search queries across three AI channels

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs32:30.
- One Reddit URL was cited for five search queries across three AI channels
- Get included on "top 10" listicles, and publish your own. AI engines lean heavily on that format.
- GPTZero shows up consistently when users ask ChatGPT for the best AI detector

Edward Tian, GPTZero16:50.
- GPTZero shows up consistently when users ask ChatGPT for the best AI detector
- Build free tools that lead into your product. Tools rank well in AI search and turn visitors into users.
- Tools tend to convert slightly better than blog posts

Ethan Ethier, Built With Science36:45.
- Tools tend to convert slightly better than blog posts
- Make the product good enough to keep users. Retention and quality decide what gets recommended.
- OpenAI uses these signals to decide which plugins to surface to its 1.2 billion users

Tibo Sottiaux, OpenAI13:53.
- OpenAI uses these signals to decide which plugins to surface to its 1.2 billion users
you essentially get automatically be ranking on that particular search query
Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs
2.1 Find the prompts and sources that matter
Measure demand with Google data, then see which sources AI cites for each prompt.
- Build a prompt list and estimate its volume from Google. Source:

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs21:55
- Write a list of around 2,000 prompts.
- Pull each query's Google volume from a tool like Ahrefs or Search Console.
- Assume about 30% of that volume happens in AI search.
- Clover generates about 150 million views from AI search across its customers.
- Check which sources get cited for each prompt. Source:

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs21:55
- Use the cited sources to decide where to publish.
- The mix shifts. Over three weeks, Gemini, Perplexity and Google AI overview cited communities such as Reddit, Quora and Pinterest more

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs32:00.
2.2 Get into community sources
Put your content inside the Reddit threads and comments that AI engines already trust.
- Find the Reddit URLs cited across many prompts and engines. Source:

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs32:30
- Look for threads that show up across ChatGPT, Gemini and Google AI overview.
- Seed the thread with a better post or a comment. Source:

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs32:30
- Post seeding means publishing a better version of the cited post.
- Comment seeding means adding a comment with your own ranked list.
- Increasingly the cited item is a single comment. A comment listing a personal top 20 became the source of truth.
- Cover both community posts and blogs. Source:

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs32:00
- Reddit citations dipped a little in ChatGPT but remain strong in blogs.
2.3 Get onto listicles
AI engines like "top 10" articles, so be on them.
- Publish your own listicles and get included on others. Source:

Edward Tian, GPTZero16:50
- The GPTZero team found that GEO engines draw heavily on "top 10" articles.
- They built more of them and got included on more of them.
- This came on top of building the best product and reputation, not instead of it.
2.4 Build free tools and shareable output
Tools and product artifacts earn search and AI discovery without ad spend.
- Build free calculators that lead into your core flow. Source:

Ethan Ethier, Built With Science36:45
- They built calorie and macro tools that lead into the quiz.
- They also hired an external consultant and optimized existing content.
- Organic SEO was about 30 to 40% of their traffic and started declining as people used AI search.
- Let what users make with your product spread and get indexed. Source:
Phil Carter, Elemental Growth32:30
- Shareable artifacts create social loops plus search and LLM discovery.
- Gamma's presentations and websites get shared, indexed and referenced in ChatGPT and Claude answers. Gamma grew with little paid acquisition and raised a Series B at a reported $2B+ valuation.
2.5 Back it with authority, quality and social
Citations last when the product is good and people can find you from every direction.
- Use press to earn domain authority, then target easy keywords. Source:

Dmitri, YourMove AI18:50
- Coverage from the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post and Fox gave strong backlinks without paying for or hunting them.
- He then picked low-competition, high-volume keywords and wrote blog posts with ads for the product.
- The SEO blog drove nearly half of all traffic. A Fox Business appearance got fewer views than a single decent Reddit post.
- Drive retention, because quality decides recommendations. Source:

Tibo Sottiaux, OpenAI13:53
- ChatGPT looks at retention numbers and plugin quality, not discovery wording.
- A good plugin can be recommended to a significant slice of users. A weak one stops being recommended.
- Run AI search and organic social together. Source:

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs38:19
- Viral videos send people to the app store, and a Reddit post, citation or blog still surfaces when they search your app name.
- Show what your app does inside those posts.
- For consumer apps, go hard on both at once if capital and resources allow.
2.6 Where they disagree
| Super Unlimited | YourMove AI | |
|---|---|---|
| Product type | Mobile-first app | Content-led product |
| SEO's role | Side bet, won't over-index | Core channel |
| Web/SEO traffic | Not in top 5 channels | Nearly half of all traffic |
| Why | Weak conversion; AI overviews eat search | Press backlinks + low-competition keywords |
How much to invest in SEO, and how long Reddit stays a top source, depends on the product and the moment.
- SEO is a core channel for some and a side bet for others.
- For a mobile-first app, web traffic is arriving but is not in the top five channels.

Tanuj Chatterjee, Super Unlimited10:00 says they will not over index on SEO, because conversion was weak and AI overviews are eating search space. - Content-led products see it differently. YourMove AI got nearly half its traffic from its SEO blog

Dmitri, YourMove AI18:50.
- For a mobile-first app, web traffic is arriving but is not in the top five channels.
- Reddit's pull in AI answers is shifting.
Phil Carter, Elemental Growth32:30 says Reddit over-indexed as an LLM source, but less than 6 to 12 months ago.- Another view says Reddit dipped a little in ChatGPT while other engines cited communities more

Matt Espinoza, Clover Labs32:00. Check your own prompts before betting on one platform.
Sources
- OpenAI’s Head of ChatGPT: We’re entering a new era of AI (again) | Tibo Sottiaux ·
Lenny's Podcast - Edward Tian on Building GPTZero, Scaling to $30M+ ARR, and the Superhuman Acquisition ·
Subversive - The NEW App Content Strategy Dominating in 2026 ·
Superwall - Why 90% of their paid traffic goes to a quiz, not the App Store ·
Sub Club - The AI Growth Playbook for Subscription Apps – Phil Carter, Elemental Growth ·
Sub Club - How the World’s #1 VPN App Reached 1 Billion Downloads – Tanuj Chatterjee, Super Unlimited ·
Sub Club - he had nothing.. until he built a stupid simple $30k/mo app with AI ·
Superwall - How OpenArt is Using AI to Reinvent Content Creation ·
Subversive - Inside Google's AI turnaround: AI Mode, AI Overviews, and vision for AI-powered search | Robby Stein ·
Lenny's Podcast - The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite) ·
Lenny's Podcast - How Honeydew is Reinventing Telehealth for Skincare ·
Subversive - Why ChatGPT will be the next big growth channel (and how to capitalize on it) | Brian Balfour ·
Lenny's Podcast - 5 Free ASO Keyword Research Tools That Help Apps Print Cash ·
App Masters - Growth tactics from OpenAI and Stripe’s first marketer | Krithika Shankarraman ·
Lenny's Podcast - How Grammarly’s Evolution from B2C to B2B Propelled It to a $13B Valuation ·
Subversive - The Best Alternative to Firebase Dynamic Links ·
App Masters - How AllTrails Crossed the Chasm to 1M+ Subscribers ·
Subversive - Boost Your App's Conversion Rate with These 9 Proven Strategies ·
App Masters - Just evil enough: Subversive marketing strategies for startups | Alistair Croll ·
Lenny's Podcast - Rethinking SEO in the age of AI | Eli Schwartz (SEO advisor, author) ·
Lenny's Podcast - Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO): 7 Ways To Get Started ·
App Masters - Advanced App Store Optimization Strategies for 2024 ·
App Masters - Inside Etsy’s product, growth, and marketplace evolution | Tim Holley (VP of Product) ·
Lenny's Podcast - An inside look at Deel’s unprecedented growth | Meltem Kuran Berkowitz (Head of Growth) ·
Lenny's Podcast - Relentless curiosity, radical accountability, and HubSpot’s winning growth formula | Chris Miller ·
Lenny's Podcast - Leveraging growth advisors, mastering SEO, and honing your craft | Luc Levesque (Shopify, Meta) ·
Lenny's Podcast - Frameworks for product differentiation, team building, and first principles thinking | Ayo Omojola ·
Lenny's Podcast - Lessons from Airtable’s unconventional growth strategy | Zoelle Egner ·
Lenny's Podcast - Early Stage Growth Strategies ·
App Masters - The ultimate guide to SEO | Ethan Smith (Graphite) ·
Lenny's Podcast - How Snyk built a product-led growth juggernaut | Ben Williams (VP of Product at Snyk) ·
Lenny's Podcast - How to build a powerful marketing machine | Emily Kramer (Asana, Carta, MKT1) ·
Lenny's Podcast - How to grow a subscription business | Yuriy Timen (Grammarly, Canva, Airtable) ·
Lenny's Podcast - Reddit Marketing: How We Drove 1,200+ App Signups ·
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